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		<title>By: EBS 2008 is dead&#8230; no wait&#8230; it&#8217;s not&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.sbsfaq.com/?p=1544&#038;cpage=1#comment-1720</link>
		<dc:creator>EBS 2008 is dead&#8230; no wait&#8230; it&#8217;s not&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 22:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 30, 2010), someone within Microsoft has decided that maybe it’s not so dead after all.&#160; I reported back in March, that Microsoft had discontinued EBS 2008, but it seems I may have been wrong… or am [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 30, 2010), someone within Microsoft has decided that maybe it’s not so dead after all.&#160; I reported back in March, that Microsoft had discontinued EBS 2008, but it seems I may have been wrong… or am [...]</p>
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		<title>By: EBS 2008 returns on clustered iPads!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>EBS 2008 returns on clustered iPads!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wayne Small</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Small</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Enrique,
I&#039;m more wondering if EBS was not killed, not by Microsoft, but by the GFC.... Introducing a product to market in the GFC was going to be a tough proposition to start with...
Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Enrique,<br />
I&#8217;m more wondering if EBS was not killed, not by Microsoft, but by the GFC&#8230;. Introducing a product to market in the GFC was going to be a tough proposition to start with&#8230;<br />
Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Enrique Garcia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enrique Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too much of a good thing. Fair pricing.
My bet is MS realized this had the potential to cannibalize sales on mid-market so better cut it’s throat now.
I will miss the out-of-the-box best practices all around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too much of a good thing. Fair pricing.<br />
My bet is MS realized this had the potential to cannibalize sales on mid-market so better cut it’s throat now.<br />
I will miss the out-of-the-box best practices all around.</p>
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		<title>By: New SMB Comic Strip</title>
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		<dc:creator>New SMB Comic Strip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Susanne Dansey</title>
		<link>http://www.sbsfaq.com/?p=1544&#038;cpage=1#comment-717</link>
		<dc:creator>Susanne Dansey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Mark on this; Wayne you put so much into your work with Microsoft and naturally it&#039;s easy to be rudely awoken by some of their decisions - especially when you have invested so much emotional and professional time. Having worked for Dell in the &#039;M&#039; of SMB that EBS was aimed at and not seeing the traction it was hoped, I would rather MS refocus their priorities on the business that is going to secure their market and revenue in an industry that is becoming increasingly pressured. That way their value proposition into our target markets will ensure a better level of long-term success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Mark on this; Wayne you put so much into your work with Microsoft and naturally it&#8217;s easy to be rudely awoken by some of their decisions &#8211; especially when you have invested so much emotional and professional time. Having worked for Dell in the &#8216;M&#8217; of SMB that EBS was aimed at and not seeing the traction it was hoped, I would rather MS refocus their priorities on the business that is going to secure their market and revenue in an industry that is becoming increasingly pressured. That way their value proposition into our target markets will ensure a better level of long-term success.</p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft says Stop Buying Servers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft says Stop Buying Servers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Miguel</title>
		<link>http://www.sbsfaq.com/?p=1544&#038;cpage=1#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Dantv. The cloud is taking over. They will ram it down our throats if we let them and all the studying, effort, money spent on training seminars, etc. will be of little use. We will eventually work in data centers as human bots like in The Matrix.

Back in the mainframe days, vendors used to squeeze clients for every penny by the &quot;leasing&quot; model aka (monthly recurring revenue). Distributed computing changed that. Now they want us back to the mainframe days. 

I think that companies do not like it when you are &quot;happy&quot; with your current version and have no need to upgrade. leasing on the cloud will take care of that, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Dantv. The cloud is taking over. They will ram it down our throats if we let them and all the studying, effort, money spent on training seminars, etc. will be of little use. We will eventually work in data centers as human bots like in The Matrix.</p>
<p>Back in the mainframe days, vendors used to squeeze clients for every penny by the &#8220;leasing&#8221; model aka (monthly recurring revenue). Distributed computing changed that. Now they want us back to the mainframe days. </p>
<p>I think that companies do not like it when you are &#8220;happy&#8221; with your current version and have no need to upgrade. leasing on the cloud will take care of that, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Crall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Crall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you really feel Wayne?  ;-)

Actually Wayne, I have to ask you something;  Take all the personal emotions out if it such as how it screws you and your customers and ask your self this: If I were Microsoft and I had some insight and analytics that caused me to believe with fair certianty that the solution package of EBS was not sustainable (for what ever reason), would I have made the same or a similar decision? I&#039;m not saying they handled it correctly but is it maybe possible that in the end, they are putting thier shareholders before a very small group of customers?   

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m not taking sides but I&#039;m also not emotionally involved in this.  As you know I was close to some of the EBS &quot;stuff&quot; too and am dissapointed but either I trust the executives to make the right decisions with the information from their perspective or I trust that their days are numbered too.  I also trust that mistakes will be made in some decision (ME, Vista, Win 2003 SP2 in WSUS, MS Small Biz Acctn, BCM...).  If this was a mistake then I will judge on how well they deal with their error.  If you don&#039;t trust some part of the process then get the hell out or grow thick skin.  

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you really feel Wayne?  <img src='http://www.sbsfaq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Actually Wayne, I have to ask you something;  Take all the personal emotions out if it such as how it screws you and your customers and ask your self this: If I were Microsoft and I had some insight and analytics that caused me to believe with fair certianty that the solution package of EBS was not sustainable (for what ever reason), would I have made the same or a similar decision? I&#8217;m not saying they handled it correctly but is it maybe possible that in the end, they are putting thier shareholders before a very small group of customers?   </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m not taking sides but I&#8217;m also not emotionally involved in this.  As you know I was close to some of the EBS &#8220;stuff&#8221; too and am dissapointed but either I trust the executives to make the right decisions with the information from their perspective or I trust that their days are numbered too.  I also trust that mistakes will be made in some decision (ME, Vista, Win 2003 SP2 in WSUS, MS Small Biz Acctn, BCM&#8230;).  If this was a mistake then I will judge on how well they deal with their error.  If you don&#8217;t trust some part of the process then get the hell out or grow thick skin.  </p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Dantv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dantv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not shocked at all. I&#039;ve lost a few customers in the past 6 months to Google Docs and email services. Another went to Zoho and fired me. Yet another went to salesforce.com. 

What do you see in common here....the cloud is taking over! That is the reality. I won&#039;t be surprised to see SBS Server be discontinued next!

The only reason more companies haven&#039;t moved to cloud services is because long time IT Guys like us are afraid of our future. We may not be needed in a couple of years. Gotta plan accordingly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not shocked at all. I&#8217;ve lost a few customers in the past 6 months to Google Docs and email services. Another went to Zoho and fired me. Yet another went to salesforce.com. </p>
<p>What do you see in common here&#8230;.the cloud is taking over! That is the reality. I won&#8217;t be surprised to see SBS Server be discontinued next!</p>
<p>The only reason more companies haven&#8217;t moved to cloud services is because long time IT Guys like us are afraid of our future. We may not be needed in a couple of years. Gotta plan accordingly!</p>
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